The nanny cam topic started buzzing on our Working Mom message board recently. And guess what? Most people commenting either had a camera installed – or were looking to buy one. I was shocked.
It's not that I don't understand why people have them. There is someone in your house – with your most prized possession -- your kids. It's hard to trust people sometimes, no matter how many background checks you've run or references you've checked. This isn't something you want to take a chance on.
But I'd never do it.
I believe in trust and open communication. I believe in creating a dialogue with a nanny and letting him or her know you are partners in caring for your child. I believe that if someone doesn't feel right, if the kids aren't responding well to the nanny or if the ideas and projects the nanny said she'd do with kids aren't being produced - then it's time to move on. I believe your instinct will tell you more than a camera will.
But if you have a nanny cam, or feel strongly about getting one before you hire a nanny, please be upfront about it. Think about it this way: You are starting a relationship that should be built around trust and openness. While this person should be constantly proving themselves to you, there should always be a level of respect and appreciation for their work. Hiding a nanny cam does not send this message (they can often be found).
Instead, let your nanny know that you've installed security cameras in the house. It's up to them if they are comfortable with this or not. At least you've been upfront.
Just don't lower your radar because you have a camera. Nothing trumps the power of a strong gut feeling.
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I do not think you should be in the position writing blogs to protect people and persuade them into Not doing something to protect their " most prized possessions!". There are namnerect there who pass reference checks because they are watching children who have naive patents like yourself. Go to you tube nanny and twins and Florida. Please be aware and Protect your children!
Posted by: Kel | May 29, 2012 at 07:35 AM
I have to disagree with you. Long before I was a mom who used a nanny cam I was a college student working as a nanny. As a nanny, I fully expected that parents might have hidden cameras. Would you feel differently if your trust had been broken, either as a child or parent? If a person doesn't want to be on a nanny cam they should not work as a nanny. A nanny cam is all part of the job. I had no problem with it when I was a nanny.
Posted by: Rose | May 29, 2012 at 08:11 AM
If I was keeping a stranger's child I would INSIST on a camera for my own protection against false charges.
Posted by: Jim Britt | May 29, 2012 at 08:34 AM
I used to think I would never have a nanny cam. However, I recently had a shock. We found out on day five after our most recent nanny came to work for us that she was stealing our child's ADD medication (which was kept in our dresser drawer). The whole week, I kept thinking she was acting strangely and drugs even crossed my mind. Her stealing our child's medication meant that our child would have to go without it for 10 days that month (she stole 10 or more pills in only five days).
We fired her the next workday. We paid her for her time worked to date. However, a day or two later, we realized that our child's money was gone. That prompted us to check my jewelry and other valuables. Our key to my jewelry box (also kept in our dresser) was missing. We had decided not to involve the police and to pay her for her time worked before we realized the extent of the damage.
Now we have decided to get a nanny cam. Our new nanny knows this and is OK with it.
Posted by: Burned | May 29, 2012 at 08:47 AM
Having read and come across some horrific stories on how some nannies have mistreated kids and elders alike, I am not sure if I would rely on gut. However, I do agree with being upfront about these surveillance arrangements but it may have to be evaluated on case basis. I am wondering if there is any legal aspect of spying on nannies?
Posted by: Andy | May 29, 2012 at 08:51 AM
I couldn't disagree more. I'm a mother of a now 6-month old and we had nanny cams installed. For our first nanny, all references checked out glowingly, background check passed, and I worked with her the last few weeks of my maternity leave. She kept telling us when we got home that our baby was cranky but everyone else thought he was a happy smiley baby. We watched the nanny cam film & saw she has zero newborn/baby skills - not even the ones we saw when we were around, and the kickers were she left him unattended on the changing table and texted/dropped her phone while feeding him and just had to pick it up while crunching the baby in her lap. Fired her that day. Nanny cam has already paid for itself in that instant. As a parent you are not also a professional interviewer and professional nanny finder, so that camera has been invaluable.
Posted by: Cheiatie | May 29, 2012 at 08:56 AM
I dont agree, I just started with a nanny and installed cameras and told her upfront about it, I dont see why they should have a problem, especially because i told them upfront....the purpose is not to catch them when they do something wrong, it's just a way to be able to check when u have any doubt. Sometimes, as moms, we just are over protective and these cameras help me relax as I can check on them when I want.....the fact that I told her upfront proves my point that I am not here to catch them, its more preventative and for my peace of mind....and if a nanny has a problem with that, I wouldnt hire her, she has to trust me that I am not some psycho who is going to monitor her 24*7, thats not the purpose, I have much more at stake in that house with my kids than monitoring her activities, and who is not monitored? at my work, we are monitored for our internet activities, our emails and phones are all tracked, its a part of the job...it doesnt mean I cant access my gmail, it's just to make sure that we know that the company and its information is safe....i dont see a problem with it, its a part of any job
Posted by: pkbs | May 29, 2012 at 09:00 AM
it is extremely naive to think we live on a different
planet. when was the last time you watched the
news and didn't see something that dropped
your jaw??? crime against elderly by care givers
crim against children and almost always by people
trusted. the human element is the most unpredictable
element out there. there is no tragedy bigger for any
parent than one that affects their children. there is
no measure too extreme to protect your kids!
Posted by: Ali | May 29, 2012 at 09:12 AM
I have a nanny but no nanny cam. I trust her but of course it's always in the back of my head about what's going on at home. Can you please share what kind and where did you get your nanny can? Thanks!
Posted by: MH | May 29, 2012 at 09:13 AM
Nanny cameras protect the innocent and expose the wrong for both sides. I have used the cameras many times to see my kids, ages 2 and 3, fighting and have not punished the wrong child. It has also recorded precious moments that I don't want to forget. It has been wonderful. Our cameras are not hidden and they have been nothing but helpful. For example out nanny spanked our child once. We were able to review the circumstances and see why and what happened. Yes, she told us about it. But there was nothing like the peace of mind of seeing it for ourselves. The cameras are great when you have nothing to hide. The only schools don't allow it is because they are afraid of all the lawsuits. That is the best reason to get them in there!!
Posted by: Another Mom | May 29, 2012 at 09:19 AM
To be honest with you, it really seems that you don't want us to install nanny cams in our homes....why??, really makes me think, I mean I taught all this nannies you hire are good. Why worry if one as a parent was to put cams in their home. We as parents at least me, we can't trust anybody regardless their background check anything, specially if your getting someone online. In my opinion nanny cams do tell you more way more than just your instinct. I would definitely encourage moms to put cameras when dealing with our most priced possession. Remember better safe than sorry.
Posted by: Melissa | May 29, 2012 at 09:22 AM
I think you are looking at this as a matter of TRUST, like you would for a friend or family member and that is totally the wrong way to look at the nanny relationship. For all the interviews and background checks in the end you are bringing a stranger into your home and entrusting that stranger with your precious child. A nanny is an employee not your friend. It may grow into a close friendly relationship as time goes by. In the interim I see nothing wrong with 'nanny cams' both in sight or hidden. It is normal for employees to be on their best behavior when the employer is around but what do they do when left alone? I agree that it is not only good for the employer but also for the nanny to have video of them caring properly for your child.
After all, most people thought Ted Bundy was a wonderful guy....
Posted by: Ras DeBol | May 29, 2012 at 09:25 AM
I agree with Sheila that the basis of child care should be trust and open communication. We do not use a nanny cam at our home. Our nanny does not always follow our instructions and although that bothers us, I do not believe it is serious enough to install a nanny cam. I prefer to address the situation through open discussion. I also believe that children should have some privacy in the home - should not be spied upon by their parents during the day.
Posted by: LG | May 29, 2012 at 09:35 AM
Wow, there are way more panicky pessimistic people out there than I thought! I used to nanny (never for anyone who had a nanny cam) and now I have my two littles. Yes, it is hard to leave them in the care of someone else.. but I think that it is good for me, and I have been pleased with all the sitters they've had. I think it is important to be able to trust a nanny without monitoring her every move. I also think it is very wrong to have a nanny cam and not inform your caregiver.
I don't think that I would want one, but I certainly understand why someone who may have had a bad experience might want one. However, another kind of person who just decides to have one has some qualities I don't particularly like; i.e. controlling, condescending, distrustful.
Posted by: Erin | May 29, 2012 at 09:53 AM
This conversation makes me crazy. I have been a stay at home Mom for five years. I/we gave up a lot to do this, personally and financially. But these are 'my' kids and 'my' responsibility. If you have to think about putting a camera in your home then maybe you should really consider staying home and raising your own children. It is by far the hardest job in the world. When you make the choice and take on the responsibility to have a child it is 'your' responsibility to raise the child. Did you ever stop to wonder why you had a child to begin with...I mean did you really think they were going to raise themselves! It is so much easier to sit back and monitor a situation than to actually do it. So yes, if you must put a camera in then the nanny should be aware. I can't believe our world has come to this. We think of other people raising our kids as so mainstream and acceptable.
Posted by: KL | May 29, 2012 at 09:53 AM
I disagree with the blogger; I would never tell my nanny or babysitter there are nanny cams. Some people only do the right thing when they are being watched. No one is going to hit your child or steal from you if they know they are on camera. You never really know anyone. Even family members could abuse or molest.
Posted by: Christina | May 29, 2012 at 10:05 AM
Most ignorant post I've seen here. You're a fool not to have a nanny cam and of course you should let the sitter know that you are taping them to keep them honest. Trust but verify, there are too many weirdos out there plus the camera protects the sitter from wrongful accusations as well.
Posted by: Paul | May 29, 2012 at 10:18 AM
Why would someone come on care.com to post something so negative about working families utilizing a nanny? KL, I think your opinion is not appropriate in this setting.
Posted by: JZ | May 29, 2012 at 10:24 AM
I am both a mom of a 3 year old and a nanny. It is shocking to be that so many people
are pro nanny cams. Motherly intuition is amazing.
I am 95% on when it comes to my child being naughty/doing no-no and when check in her usually "bust" her and we have a conversation. I have hired sitters for time away. There has been 1 I had a strong "something isn't right"
Feeling and I never hired her again.
I agree with the author of this article. Be upfront and tell your nanny you are using a
Cam. If I were to find out that a family I cared for their child
As if they were my own was spying on me without that being communicated, I
Would no longer work for that family. Trust and intuition go hand in hand and communication is the glue that holds everything together.
Posted by: Erin | May 29, 2012 at 10:26 AM
Wow - it is nice to think you have an open and honest communication. I paid for my sitter's children's summer camp, gave her a car, went to advocate for her child's special needs - only to find out she had stolen my disabled daughter's atm card and was using it to play the lottery - she even hid the bank statements when they came in the mail. This is how I was alerted to the situation. I was even sponsoring her for citzenship. Another sitter stole my daughter's seizure meds (in a locked box). Another was abusing her and then reported me for abuse! NANNY CAM A MUST!
Posted by: VN | May 29, 2012 at 11:08 AM
So I think nanny cams are the best thing you can ever do for your kids safety. Why? I trusted a nanny during the day with my 4 month old newborn(still breastfeeding) and 1.5 year old. When I came home one day my whole apartment had been ransacked and the worst thing ever happened. The nanny was missing and so were my kids. I had called all day and no one answered. I thought she must be out taking the kids for a walk in the stroller. But no, my very worst fears were found when I came home and not only were my things missing but my children too. Turns out my ex showed up, he paid her to allow him in my apartment. He took everything including the children and it took me months to find him and my children. And when I finally did find them his new girlfriend had taken pictures with them depicting her as their mother. I fought long and hard and got temporary visitation but I had quit my job to find them so I had to stay in a shelter temporarily until I got a new job and place to live. Everytime I went to visit them on my court appointed visits, the kids were missing and conveniently not there. Finally when we got to our hearing I got 50 percent custody. What a nightmare, he could afford an attorney and I could not. It took months to get my children back, I lost 25 lbs in one month after they left from depression (probably post-partum and losing my kids) and I was bleeding and found out I got ulcers from the stress. Today my kids are with me, 21 and 22 and they chose me over their manipulative father. He doesn't even send them birthday cards or presents and I found out he did it all just to hurt me. Don't trust nannies 100 percent. Put your younger kids in a good daycare with two or more providers. They are less likely to have issues. When they are a bit older a nanny is probably fine but not until they can care for themselves. We have however had a great experience with Care and a nanny for my 9 and 15 year old so I know if you interview enough you can find a great provider. But do still keep a nanny cam hidden. And let them know they are being recorded.
Posted by: Kimberly | May 29, 2012 at 11:08 AM
I just found out my trusted sitter of 4 years has been taking money from my childrens banks (all silver change and bills from birthdays...pennys were left) and about $50 in quarters from my change jar I have in a closet in my room. Also found things such as new bottles of laundry detergent and other items missing. I have never felt so betrayed in my life so YES it is important for people to keep an eye on what is going on. When you turn your back and close your eyes, someone can stab you in the back.
Posted by: DDS | May 29, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Thanks to my nanny cam I found out my nanny wouldn't stop using the computer or cell phone the entire time, leaving my children to interact with no one. Even after we talked and I asked her to stop, she kept doing it. So thanks to the cam I know what happens in my house. Actually I check as soon as I drive out of the house from my cell phone, pretty neat. It's a dropcam, recommend it :)
Posted by: sc | May 29, 2012 at 11:25 AM
It only takes one time for your child to have irreparable damage from a nanny, whether it be physical or mental. Cameras come with the territory for this kind of job and with good reason. Anyone applying for such a job should always assume they might be there. This blog entry is the absolute worst advice I have ever seen from Care.com.
Posted by: Joseph Smith | May 29, 2012 at 11:55 AM
It's completely irresponsible to influence mothers against installing nanny cams. I have an ad on a nanny website and in it I say they have to be comfortable being recorded because I have installed them. I don't think you should hide it from the nanny due to the fact that I wouldn't want to be recorded without knowing but mostly because I don't want to "wait and see" if someone is going to abuse my child. I want them to know they better not do anything dumb because they ARE being recorded. I think informing them they are being recorded will make them do a better job.
Posted by: Whitney | May 29, 2012 at 12:04 PM
I trust my gut, the reaction my little girl has when she sees her nanny, and the development I see occurring from day to day in her skill sets.
With our last two nannys, it was obvious when there was something we wanted to change.
Our new nanny has such a good connection with our daughter, she doesn't even cry when I leave for work, and gets excited when she arrives. We also get random update pictures of their activities, and my husband is known to stop by randomly at home to get things during the day, and all checks out.
Posted by: Jess Stevens | May 29, 2012 at 12:35 PM
This is a very bad and naive posting by someone who does not use them.b. first, I did not use one for seven yearsk, "trusting" all that we hired. After installing them, we fired both nannies on the same day, both of whom ignored or endangered our kids who are too young to tell us what is going on. We learned the hard way that there is NO correlation between how well someone interviews with adult parents, with how they treat children when nobody is looking, none. The best interview is the first few hours on the nanny cam with adults gone. Intregrity truly is measured by ones conduct when nobody is looking. Some of the best interviews were the worst care providers, from lying re experience when it is clear they can't put a diapher on, to neglect by watching tv, letting kids sleep all day, leaving them unattended on changing tables, updating facebook and texting all day. We let go about 7 out of 10 we tried for these reasons and more. Nannies are employees, not friends. Trust is earned, not expected. If you have kids 30 months or younger and don't have a cam installed, who is going to tell you they weren't fed all day so the nanny could study? This is horrible advice from someome who has not learned the utility of this tool. Our good ones learn in time we have one, and they have all been ok with it. If they aren't, then the loss is worth the protection it provides. The bundy reference is dead on. Some of our best, did not interview well at all, and our worst had steller reumes. That is the way it is.
Posted by: daddy | May 29, 2012 at 12:46 PM
A nanny Cam is a MUST. And don't tell your babysitter. This way you can see how she truely cares for your kid. Well I had a hidden cam with my first babysitter, and I discovered that she yells and screams at my daughter all the time, reads her books and uses her cellphone all day long. Oh and in addition she washes her hair and do her laundry.(she did not live with us. She was like an angle when we talk to her but once we turn our back she did all that. We did not discover all this until we installed the cam. DON'T TRUST ANYONE when it comes to your kids. Now i just trust what i see. With my second babysitter we also used the hidden cam and she was perfect. She loved the kids and enjoyed caring for them. Although she would use her cellphone a lot but she still was very nice with the kids. That made me reward her even more because I appreciated who she really was. It would be different if she knew there was a cam installed. Again i say the Camis a must, you dont want to take any chance with your kids. You never Know. And for KL who was saying stay home and raise your kids, well my response will be pay my bills and i will quit my job now.
Posted by: Eliane | May 29, 2012 at 01:07 PM
Wow, I agree with most of the comments on this post. Nannies are just employees and most employees are looking to do what they want when the boss isn't looking. Only, this situation involves your KIDS - the most important thing in the world. I work at home (in an office in my house) and STILL have a camera in my living room that shows me what's going on all day and I wouldn't have it any other way. It only takes a second for someone to do something bad to a child and you'll NEVER know about it unless it's so bad it shows :( Also very dissappointed about this post. To me it sounds like someone's looking to boost sales by encouraging parents to trust perfect strangers more from their site.
Posted by: Mommaworking@home | May 29, 2012 at 01:14 PM
KL, I cannot believe you would have the nerve to come onto a site where working mothers and fathers are looking for quality care for their children, to voice your opinion about working mothers. Your comment suggests that should we choose to work to give our children a better quality of life, that we should not have had children in the first place. As a first time about to be working mother, I cannot wait to prove you wrong. As for the nanny cams? Absolutely I will get one. There is no trust and open communication with a perfect stranger, until they become NOT a stranger. If a nanny has a problem with that, then I'll show them the door.
Posted by: Kathleen Ferguson | May 29, 2012 at 01:14 PM
I have to disagree. Although I wouldn't call them "possessions" exactly, our children are what we hold most dear. If people have security cameras to protect their jewelry, electronics and cars, then why not have them for something infinitely more valuable?
Trust is earned, and unfortunately given the nature of a nanny's job we are not really around to see them earn it. Something I will never forget as long as I live is a news story on CNN many years ago (more than a decade) which featured a grandmotherly nanny who reportedly had impecable references who was caught on a nanny cam doing just horrible things to a baby not more than 6-7 months old, including holding her up by one leg and smacking her, hard. My children are my children and I wouldn't advocate relying only on "gut feelings".
I do agree that nanny cams shouldn't be kept a secret from caregivers. Any nanny who refuses to work in a setting with a nanny cam I wouldn't hire anyway.
Posted by: LH | May 29, 2012 at 01:25 PM
KL, I think children benefit when they see both daddy and MOMMY go to work! I believe it shows them responsibility and will later bring a strong work ethic for themselves! Some of us are lucky enough to see the BEST of both worlds!!!
Posted by: T | May 29, 2012 at 02:12 PM
I installed nanny cams in my house and it has been the best thing for my family. I was upfront and honest with my nanny about mt decision to install the cams. I believe in open communication I trust and adore my nanny. My kids love her, but even under the best circumstances things can happen and knowing I can see what my kids are doing anytime of the day makes me feel better.
Posted by: Stacie | May 29, 2012 at 02:30 PM
I think it's VERY bad advice to discourage someone from using a nanny cam. We have a 31 year old son with disabilities, who is largely non-verbal, and lives at home with us. We have had dozens of caregivers over the years. Some have been the finest people in the world but many have been mediocre or questionable and too many have been truly awful. Sometimes we know or suspect that to be the case but looking back, how I wish we had truly KNOWN what was going on. We suspect that in many cases, he was neglected or not treated well and we also know that many of these caregivers - who all passed background checks - were stealing from us or from our son.
One of the worst thieves was a sweet-faced, pleasant young college girl who was studying to be a physical therapist. She worked for us for nearly a year and a half - and though we began to worry about her because she seemed to be a pathological liar - we were desperate and couldn't find a replacement for her and she was extremely dependable. When she graduated and left our area, she took with her a lot of my son's property as well as mine and we realized she had been stealing from my husband's wallet on a regular basis as well. We have no way to prove that and now she will be able to exploit numerous people through her career.
Background checks are fine up to a point, but they don't always tell the whole story. For instance, one young man who worked for us had attacked and tried to rape a young woman WHEN HE WAS A JUVENILE. Another young mother had had her children taken away from her for neglect and abuse WHEN SHE WAS A JUVENILE HERSELF. These things do not show up on a background check and they had gotten savvy enough in the interim that they were not yet caught as adults so their background checks were clean.
Trust is important and it is a fine thing, but after our experiences I am not going to entrust my precious son to someone who is able to put on a good front for me. I want to know how someone acts WHEN THEY DON'T THINK ANYONE IS LOOKING.
Another advantage to a nanny cam is that when abuse or theft occurs, one has the evidence to bring charges against the individual. A lawyer assured me that it is legal, even if the presence of the nanny cam is not disclosed to the employee. These people NEED TO BE PROSECUTED AND EXPOSED so that they cannot simply move on to the next unsuspecting victim. We all have a responsibility to one another, do we not? What good is a background check if we don't make sure that people will not pass it if they shouldn't be allowed to work with vulnerable people? I believe nursing homes, private homes and child care settings should have nanny cams if the individuals to be cared for cannot advocate for themselves.
Posted by: RJ | May 29, 2012 at 02:32 PM
Where are you all getting your nanny cams from? I'd love some more information - which ones are the best, how they get installed, etc... Please post. You can never be too sure and our children are the most precious little people in the world. Thank you!
Posted by: Asher | May 29, 2012 at 02:46 PM
You can purchase the cams off of amazon. There is a big selection there with reviews. Ours were on $27 a piece with audio and video. Hook the receiver up to a VCR or DVr, video can be sent to your phone.
Posted by: Mom | May 29, 2012 at 03:08 PM
I believe it is illegal in some states to have a nanny cam without notifying the nanny. Just so that you are aware, and not slapped with a lawsuit if your nanny finds out. It is respectful to inform the nanny, if you feel you must have one. I think using your gut is fine, but if you get that nagging sensation that something is wrong, inform the nanny and use a cam.
Posted by: Brianna | May 29, 2012 at 03:12 PM
I think if you need to put a nanny cam in your house it is all right. But the nanny should know it is there. I live in danville il. And all the city buses and scholl busses have cameras on them so the city knows what is going on. I see a nanny cam no different but on the same topic the camers are not hid and are min plan veiw the recorder is hid. But as you get on the school bus or city bus there is a sign that saids this bus has cameras and on the school buss they have a sign that says this bus has audio and video survalance. All I am saying is tell your nanny that the cam4eras are there. and post it by your front door. To answer the question if having a nanny cam is legal by law in my opinion I would say yes. Just watch tv adds for home security systems they are now set up so all you have to do is dial a number on your cell phone and you can see what is going on in yuour house when you are not there. They also mostly show kids at home being watched by their parents. So I would say if you want to make sure a nanny cam is legal check local laws or just get a home security system that lets you check what is going on in your house. But always let the nanny know she is being watched. Just because you have it on tape does not mean it is leagal in court in some states for exeample you can record a phone conversation without the other person knowing and it is legal in court in other states both parties have to know that they are being recorded or the court will not even let you use it as evedence. So if you are going to set up camras just let the nanny know and be honest. And no desrespect to the live at home mom but some moms and dads are single parents and have to work so they can not stay at home with their kids.
Posted by: donald | May 29, 2012 at 03:44 PM
I wasn't sure about the nanny cam, but after seeing all of the stories here...I'm definitely getting one. And I too believe one should inform the nanny.
Posted by: Nicole Marie | May 29, 2012 at 04:00 PM
After receiving advice from law enforcement and attorneys, judges in my state it is LEGAL, even without the nanny knowing!!! Why would you give this stranger the benefit of the doubt and she or he could walk off camera with your child and you not know how the nanny REALLY is if you give them a heads up first?!
Posted by: W | May 29, 2012 at 04:10 PM
I forgot to mention I am a nanny, and I am wondering if the family I work for has installed a camera without telling me. I have no problem with it, in fact I would love for them to see how creative and loving I am with their child, so if they want one, that's fine. However, trust goes both ways, and if they haven't told me, then there is a chance they will have lost a great nanny. Can someone tell me how I can find out if there is a camera?
Posted by: Brianna | May 29, 2012 at 04:12 PM
Im a current Nanny and I have also hired a sitter for my child from this site and she is great. I love kids but using a camera WITHOUT letting the Nanny know is not a noble act. A nanny that is told before she starts who has nothing to hide will not care if the camera is there or not! However, I do understand the use of one from parents that have had someone mistreat their children. I work for a high profile family and I know there is no camera. The kids however are old enough to tell what happens. I tell everything and what I do when the parents aren't home, I do when they are around as if they are not there. But to say the author of this blog is bs is a shame. I feel like some of you women that responded with foolish remarks are just dramatic or hurt! Stay home if you cant trust anyone or you can't be honest and upfront about your camera system!
Posted by: Deann | May 29, 2012 at 04:35 PM
Families that use nanny cams need to inform the nanny if anything for PRIVACY reasons. There have been plenty of times when I came back inside from swimming or playing and would change my shirt or something out in the open in order to change and keep an eye on the kids. How embarassing would it be to find out there is a nanny cam watching that? If you can't trust anyone with your kids, raise them yourself. If you suspect someone of mistreating your kids, fire them. I would rather prevent something from happening by telling my nanny I have cameras than to "catch" them doing something. Seems like all the moms that hide it are looking to "catch" it. Well it only takes once and once may be enough. Let your nanny know. Its common decency.
Posted by: terri | May 29, 2012 at 05:48 PM
I am about to hire a new babysitter/ housekeeper and would never use a hidden nannycam. However, I am at sahm just looking for a little help. Until we establish a strong relationship I will not be leaving my children alone for more than 20-30minutes. I also have a 4 year old that is an extremely strong communicator so I feel if anything was off he could tell me about it. That said if I was gone most of the day, had a young child that wasnt able to tell me what was happening and/or didn't have the luxury of a long "get to know you" period I would install cameras but let my nanny know.
Posted by: katie | May 29, 2012 at 05:52 PM
I asked my nanny of a year and who would shortly be leaving us (because she was moving out of the area) about this subject. She said that she felt it was important to tell applicants that there were cameras in the house if I chose to install them. Its been 2 months and I still haven't found a replacement that I'm comfortable with (although I haven't installed any cameras). This is a difficult issue for me. I have interviewed dozens of applicants from this site and have found very few matches. Background check results or references have sunk most of the remaining viable candidates I've found. Would telling applicants about a nanny cam scare everyone away? Some applicants from this site get upset and have declined a detailed background check. My decision: I will have to delay going back to work until my child is old enough for a respected local daycare.
Posted by: another mom | May 29, 2012 at 06:03 PM
Did the parents of all the children who were sexually assaulted be priests of the catholic church have open communications with them? I believe in trust as well but there are evil people in the world who can tell a parent what they want to hear and then do the unspeakable while smiling. Get real.
Posted by: tom | May 29, 2012 at 07:14 PM
KL, you are very small minded! It's not the 1950's anymore. In this day almost both parents have to work. You should consider yourself "lucky" that you don't have to work and quit judging other people. Btw, Im very lucky that I get to work and provide the best of both worlds to my wonderful sons!
Posted by: MH | May 29, 2012 at 07:59 PM
How many camera's do you install in your home? Kitchen, playroom and bedrooms??? All these stories are making me feel it is VERY important to have a nanny cam in the house. Better to be safe and give your nanny the praise she deserves than to have your child be mistreated and not able to tell you what is going on, especially if they are too young to communicate.
Posted by: MommyO | May 29, 2012 at 08:36 PM
I agree with the Mom's on here -- I too would use a nanny cam. Does anyone have any suggestions of where they have purchased them. There are such a wide variety to choose from and a bit overwhelming - any suggestions would be much appreciated! Just recently started using a nanny and would like to see my children throughout the day. Please help!
Posted by: Ashley | May 29, 2012 at 08:58 PM
I'm very surprised! Open communication will not indicate if the nanny is watching TV, sleeping, and generally caring for your child. I would happily watch (through the hidden nanny cam) my little guy being held and cared for by our nanny. But I would sadly watch her sleep through his crying or have the TV on while I asked her to not watch TV while he was awake. It is a great tool to know your child is being cared for and to confirm your rules are being followed.
As a babysitter in the past, I always assumed I was being watched! This is exactly why I thought it was legit for me to put in a nanny cam in our home when I went back to work with baby number 1.
Posted by: Jessica | May 29, 2012 at 09:30 PM
I was a nanny in college and would of liked the couple I was a nanny for to have had a camera to clear up a miscommunication there was. Now that I have a nanny myself I don't have a camera, but always think it would be nice, mostly for her. If she is not up to anything bad, there is nothing to fear. Actually in my case when I was a nanny a camera would of been great to put to rest an issue. Bad call on the nanny cam. Other than putting it in the bathroom everything should be up for review. Instincts can be wrong. The people who bad things happen to always say, "they were like part of the family, we never would of suspected" Also, the reverse is true. You can have a great nanny and get a wierd vibe so fire them and loose someone great. I am going to get a camera after reading this blog
Posted by: Rachel | May 29, 2012 at 09:33 PM
It's a matter of common sense (all too rare) and common decency (even more so). If you want to be able to watch your kids, then by all means install a Nanny Cam. Yes, your children are the most precious thing(s) you "own". Guard them carefully and fiercely. But that doesn't mean that your Nanny doesn't have rights, too. If you have a nanny already, she has the right to know in advance that she will now be watched. If you are hiring a new nanny, she has the right to know that she will be "on camera". If a Nanny has a problem with this situation, she has every right to walk away -- not being willing to be on camera is not (by itself) anything that should raise question about someone's motives or character. Protect your children, but be open and honest about it.
Posted by: Dad | May 29, 2012 at 10:05 PM
My friend hired 'a wonderful nanny with several references' for her 9 month old. After about a week the baby would cry when the mom left her with the nanny. They invested in nanny cam's and found out why the baby didn't want to stay with the nanny. She would let the baby scream and cry while she watched TV. When she finally went to get the baby she carried her by an arm and a leg, dragging the baby then tossed her onto the couch like a little rag doll. When the nanny got up from the couch she put her hand on the baby's stomach and pushed her weight on the baby in order for her to get up. Needles to say... There is trust and I for one am not willing to have a "trusting - learning curve" with someone that may interview and look good on paper. My children are my life!!! If you don't have a nanny cam, get one! (or more)
Posted by: April | May 30, 2012 at 12:41 AM
KL, nobody owes you an explanation for why they have to or choose to work or just plain have a break. Your post was very offensive. My son is 31 years old and needs as much care as when he was an infant. Are you really saying that I should not be able to have a job or respite care? And all of us should be able to find good care for our loved ones. A nanny cam is a tool to help with that. Just remember, life turns on a dime and while you appear to have choices now, that might not be the case tomorrow or 10 years from now. We are all one illness, one accident, one birth away from being a caregiver or a person with a disability. "May my words today be tender and sweet because tomorrow I may have to eat them."
Most of us can tell when someone is exceptionally good or exceptionally bad but there is a huge unknown population out there that may SEEM good and may not be at all. The entries on this blog should confirm this. None of us would have hired someone who we thought was capable of these bad deeds. The very best criminals are often the nicest because no one suspects them of evil doing. Bad people don't wear a tattoo on their foreheads identifying them as such.
Tell a caregiver about the nanny cam if you want but just remember, then you are not seeing the unfiltered behavior of this person. They can go off camera with their bad deeds or temporarily disable it or whatever if they are bent on mischief.
And yes, terri, people that do bad things to children and vulnerable persons SHOULD be caught so that they will not pass another background check. These checks are worthless if abuse and neglect are not reported. It's no different than a hospital that gives a good recommendation to an incompetent surgeon to get rid of him or a church that transfers a pedophile clergy person to another parish, etc. Wouldn't you be angry if your child was hurt by someone and you learned that this was a pattern of behavior for that person but no one reported it?
Posted by: RJ | May 30, 2012 at 01:06 AM
If you decide to spy on someone keep in mind that according to the statue in your state you can be responsible for paying a fine (in Florida 1000 dollar) per each incident. So you will need to advise your suspect before recording. Just saying...
Posted by: Robin H | May 30, 2012 at 09:20 AM
Its not illegal as long as one party knows (you).....and with what's going on in the world, nanny cams are a necessity......u never want to say "I should have" when it comes to opportunity to protect children from abuse. U r correct.....background checks r of limited use.
Posted by: danny d | May 30, 2012 at 10:37 AM
KL--You are ridiculous for almost everything you said. Of coutse parents would love to stay home and care for and interact woth their children, but that is not always an option. Some families have to work. I would love to stay home with my boys; however, I hold the insurance for my family and that is a loving responsibility for my kids I choose to continue to do. I will stop talking because there is so much more I can say. It is wonderful you can stay home with your family, but do not make other people feel guilty about providing for their family.
Posted by: MC | May 30, 2012 at 02:31 PM
WOW! I never knew so many moms were so dishonest I've been a nanny for about 8 yrs, and have worked for families with and without it. I can't believe parents think it's ok to record a persons every move without their consent. That blows my mind. I do believe the are a good thing of your child can't talk, is menttally disabled, or the nanny is inexperienced. When you hire a nanny you should be hiring someone you trust and plan to have as a partner in rainsing your child. We are more than JUST employees. Yes you want to protect your bundles of joy but if a nanny wanted to do real harm a nanny it wouldn't stop it and at best is just records it. You still can't undo the damage. I feel you should be more concerned with building trust than spying. If you want the cam that's fine if you feel it's best, but be open and honest with your reasons why, any other job I've had has let us know "hey the cameras are watching" even if employees didn't know where. I know people can get offended and what not on these things, so im not saying anyone is flat out wrong just giving another pointof view.Thats just my 2cents.
Posted by: Marche' | May 30, 2012 at 04:26 PM
I certainly did not mean to offend anyone with an extenuating life circumstance, but please do not assume that I had never had any or I do not understand.
I am talking about the people who leave a helpless infant in the care of someone they question. Obviously this has stirred discussion, as it should. We as a society feel this is mainstream. If you have enough money to pay a nanny then you obviously have ‘enough’. This begs the question of why you choose to work? and then question whom you leave your kids with? Have you looked at some of these posts? Most have horrific tales of woe, yet most continue to do it. I don’t get it! Of course you should tell someone that they are being recorded, unless you are looking to experiment with humanity. Anyone who is worth his or her salt is not going to mind.
My husband and I are educated people with advanced degrees, so no, I certainly do not think it is the 1950’s. In fact my husband cared for my children and still does. I value work and work ethic. I certainly consider our family a ‘working family’. If you have time to sit and watch your ‘nanny cam’ then I am working a hell of a lot harder than you are!
A lot of my friends with big careers and nanny’s gave it all up to stay at home with their kids…. and have never looked back. You don’t get to do this over.
Posted by: KL | May 30, 2012 at 06:51 PM
Well, YOU can trust whoever you want. But personally, we just found out our sitter(who we had a great feeling about and considered a friend) had been stealing money from our other kids in the sum of over $200. So i STRONGLY believe in cameras. If they are willing to do that, what else are they doing? My JOB is security. Honestly there are very few people you can truly trust anymore. Otherwise i would be out of work....
Posted by: eric | May 30, 2012 at 09:31 PM
We have security cameras inside and out. We don't hide the cameras and let people know that they are there, though they are in plain sight... We figure that it gives us piece of mind when we leave our child with a sitter/nanny ans also gives my husband a way to check in on the family when he is traveling for work. Trust is some thing that is wonderful to have, but it has to be earned- over time. Children are precious and irreplaceable. Why take the risk? It is kind of like making sure you have car-seats properly installed and used when in the car, or washing your hands or using sanitizer after a trip to the playground.
Posted by: Alissa | May 31, 2012 at 04:11 AM
I also wanted to ask since some of you feel the nanny cam is a must have do to attach cameras to your children when they go out with the nanny, or have one in the child's carseat? I know that sounds absurd but the point is, I think that is where the trust you should be building comes in because the camera can't always be there.
Posted by: Marche' | May 31, 2012 at 10:15 AM
Robin H. You are incorrect. For information contact your local law enforcement. Really questionable when someone on this site, cites information that is incorrect and against protecting young children. Like many people have said on here, there are evil deceiving people out there who Will put on an act. Then turn evil once you walk out that door! For the good nannies out there who adore children, I am very grateful for you!
Posted by: Tara | May 31, 2012 at 01:57 PM
Can someone please list the "brand" of nanny cam you have? I've been doing research and there are so many to choose from that get poor reviews or that are very expensive and it's a bit overwhelming. Thank you, thank you!!
Posted by: Mommy | May 31, 2012 at 03:04 PM
BIG DISAGREE here! I've caught a caregiver stealing medication from my child as well as myself! This was from a trusted caregiver who had been with me for 2 years who had a latent drug addiction and had decided to fall off the wagon. I've seen my child neglected for hours while a NURSE brought her whole family into my house without my approval! Her children were playing with my son's toys... all while my son was in his room. I also watched her read magazines, talk on the phone when she should have been caring for my son. I could write a book. The crazy thing is they all knew there were cameras in the house. So, if people were doing this while knowing there were being videoed, what would people do if there WEREN'T cameras in the house? GET CAMERAS!!! ALWAYS!!!
Posted by: Patricia | June 01, 2012 at 01:17 PM
Wow. I realize that having a blog entitles you to post your opinion, but folks here should really remember that it is just that... an OPINION. You are by no means an expert on the topic of whether cameras are good or bad. Many people have had bad experiences and even the most trustworthy people can be tempted to do wrong things. I support them 100%. I use them for my grandmother, who has dementia. I have found MANY a sitter sleeping when their job was to stay awake and watch my grandmother. I even caught one going through her drawers at 3am. They all had great references and clean background checks. They even interviewed very well and did a great job otherwise. In this day and age, if you don't protect yourself and your kids (or elderly), you are being naive and and neglectful!
Posted by: Julie | June 02, 2012 at 05:23 PM
I totally disagree with having a nanny cam. You can't gain trust by using them. I think that being upfront with the nanny before you hire them is good. You may find out somethings about our children as well if it is setup. I'm dealing with that issue now. I just recently found one in the home I work in. It makes me uneasy and uncomfortable now that I found it. I'm scared that I could fired over small things. I've done my job, but it still makes me feel like I can't be trusted.
Posted by: Tiffanie | June 05, 2012 at 12:13 PM
I just sent my nanny to prison for bodily injury to my children. If you think that you can open a dialog and feel comfortable with that then you're delusional. Trust has nothing to do with it! Would you buy a car from a car salesman just because he said "Trust me it's in perfect working order"? Unfortunately we need to work. The next best thing to being there is the camera.
We actually mentioned to our nanny that we would possibly be installing cameras. We knew her. We intervieved her. We ran background checks. It's not enough. GET THE CAMERA! If your debating whether or not to tell the nanny. Don't. That's why it's called a nanny cam. Because it's hidden. If they find out about it, so what. They're your children and it's your house. The nanny should understand that you, as a parent, will go to any means to protect your children and to ensure their safety.
If you're a nanny, just assume that it comes with the territory.
Posted by: John | June 06, 2012 at 01:50 PM
There are some untrustworthy people in the world, John. I'm sorry that happened to your children. I feel that you should be open with the person you hire about the nanny cam. If they still take it upon themselves to do things that they shouldn't do, then action should take place. For me, I agree with a Nanny cam, I just don't agree with spying. My thing is, what if you can't trust the employer? What if they install the camera somewhere where it doesn't need to be installed, like a bathroom? Employers are untrustworthy as well. The nanny cam should be able to pick up what the children are doing as well. I was recently disrespected by two of the children I recently watched. I had a child to push me, call me Tiffanie, not reference me as the adult. I talked to the parents about this, and they don't believe in discipling there child, although they say they do. The camera should work both ways. Monitor the nanny's activities, but also monitor the children. A nanny shouldn't have to tolerate a child throwing things at them. If the nanny punishes a child for bad behavior, then that's understandable. Child neglect is not acceptable though. I feel very sorry for all the nannies and employers who have had bad experiences in the past, and feel the need to spy on everybody that they hire. Children are precious, and should be loved with care. I don't think that a nanny should assume that a nanny cam comes with the territory, because there should be some form of trust. Learn to trust the nanny first, and if she/or he does something you don't like, and the issue is not resolved, then set up the nanny cam. Open discussion first.
Posted by: Tiffanie | June 07, 2012 at 07:55 AM
I'm a mother and a nanny! If I get a nanny job that wanted to use a nanny cam, and they told me about it, I would be perfectly fine with it! If I had to hire a nanny, I would almost definitely have a nanny cam. I've seen those YouTube videos.
The only thing to remember is honesty. If that is there in between both families, then what is there to worry about or be afraid of? It's only "spying" if you don't know about it.
Posted by: Christine | June 11, 2012 at 12:45 PM
I'm a nanny, and i don't have a problem or issue with working for a family that has a nanny cam. I see it this way if you have good intentions then you don't have to worry, now if you have bad intentions then it becomes a concern to you.
Posted by: Elizabeth C. | June 11, 2012 at 02:08 PM
I am a nanny, and i have no problem with families having nanny cams as long as they tell us up front. When i have kids and decide to get a nanny i would instal cams as well but i would tell that nanny up front...it's kind of like a warning, if you chose to push the limits of stealing or harming our kids in any way we are going to find out.
Posted by: ES | June 16, 2012 at 01:58 AM
I am a nanny and I think that it is completely inappropriate not to tell a nanny whether or not a camera is located in the home or not. I get it, your children are your most valued possessions, and you are looking to protect them. However nanny's have rights too. Video taping them when they don't know it seems like a huge invasion of privacy. If you don't trust your nanny enough to tell them about the cameras then you shouldn't hire them. Also there is a lot of talk about nannies being employees not friends, and although that is true it does not mean that you own us and can record us without our knowledge. Did parents ever think that when we find out we feel violated, even if nothing has been done wrong. What if your boss was secretly recording you at work? How would you feel? Not Great. I am in favor of the cameras, just not the secret recordings. Respect us enough to tell us, and in the end the right nanny will respect you not to do anything wrong.
Posted by: Ashley | June 21, 2012 at 04:51 PM
I don't believe that the person on here blogging about this is telling you not to get a cam. I read into it that she feels it's a matter of trust. I know where I work there is a cam and that I am being watched. They didn't have to tell me. You can sense that just by things they say to you. One day I told the little fella to come down off the stairs I went to get him and he slapped me in the face. I told him...not nice and I tapped him twice just on the backside a little...and moved him off the stairs. It wasn't the type of tap that would hurt him make him cry or anything like that. It was a love pat. He knew what i meant. Now the parents and I have placed a small chair in the hallway away from everything and he does a 30 sec time out. It is very productive. I have heard horror stories as well about nannies beating up and slapping children. That is the most disgusting behavior an adult can ever do. When I hear on the news or somewhere else that a child has been abused. I don't care the reasons if you can't make the child understand through discussion of what took place. Then you need not be a nanny. I talk a lot when I am with this little boy. He loves me and I know he understands what I do and say. When I place him in Time out ... I tell him, Nan loves you bigger than all the stars in the sky, but you did such and such so you have to sit here and think about that for awhile. When 30 sec is up...I go to him..ask him,"what do you have to say"...he is only 2. He says," I sorry nan" ..."I yove you." and hugs me really hard. I always tell him before the punishment and after that I love him. He knows I don't back down from his punishment if I say he is getting time out ...he is. No take backs. They are leaving soon to move out of state and i'm devastated, but they haven't a choice. I am for nanny cams. Power of Protecting a loved one, besides I know they trust me...they give me a key and I go clean, feed the cat, get the mail. Anytime I find money laying around i put it on the shelf in their closet, same for wallets and wedding rings. I am not that kind. What people have at their home is theirs and what I have at my home is mine.
Posted by: Margie Mathieu-Tankersley | June 25, 2012 at 04:22 PM
Nanny cams are not only for spying but also it is important for home and office security. so we must use this technology
Posted by: eye-veillance | August 08, 2012 at 03:43 AM
I myself am a F/T nanny. I ALWAYS assume the parents of the children i'm caring for are watching me care for their children.
Working with that mental frame makes you be that much better in my opinion, just as in a "desk job", you work for dilligently and efficiently if the boss is hovering over your shoulder.
And to those who say having a nanny cam (whether you inform the nanny or not) is an invasion of privacy is, in my opinion, ridiculous.
Do you complain when you are recorded on surveillance cameras in stores? Or ones that are in all corners at previous jobs? Etc? No. Because they are there for job place safety, and nannying is a job. A job all nannies love, but a JOB nonetheless. These parents want to enssure their childrens saftey, LET THEM.
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Posted by: Shelby D. | August 11, 2012 at 06:57 AM
It is true that sometimes it becomes very hard to trust people about the security of your children.Telling a nanny about spy cams can be very beneficial to establish a relationship of confidentiality.
Posted by: Spy cams | January 02, 2013 at 06:39 AM
While it's definitely acceptable to hide a nanny cam, the point of worry is what you might see. You may see behavior you don't like from your nanny (which is definitely good), but you may also see behavior from your spouse or children you don't like.
I think that before anyone hides a nanny cam, they must weigh the pro's and con's heavily. After all, a nanny cam may ruin or strengthen the trust between your family - and nanny. It really just depends on your approach and reasoning for it.
Posted by: How To Find A Nanny | January 13, 2013 at 03:45 PM
i have read every single story on here. im gonna get one now too after reading. im with the person that keeps asking, which are the best ones to get and where? my reasons are because im afraid of molestation. my daughter is 2 and doesnt know right from wrong, nor could she tell me. i need one that i can disquise or hide. thanks for any helpful comments.
Posted by: scared and worried | February 02, 2013 at 12:18 AM